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Hello guys, it's been a long time I didn't come back here, but now, it's time to get a party!

I'm retro-A, and I do the retro reviews~!

实际上我想一直用英语的,但是为了科普,既然我输入法也修好了,为了大家方便我还是用中文吧...

第一期RATSA我想了很久,究竟该以哪个稀有主机为开始,现在我还是觉得应该以第一或第二世代为开端。跳过我们都还算熟悉的Magnavox Odyssey,直接看离它发行日期最近的。

1976年初,我们都知道家用机界有了一场小革命——以Fairchild发行的Channel F为领头的卡带时代开始了,这标志着Pong主机的根基开始动摇了。Magnavox 的Odyssey虽然也是能够更换卡带的,但是终究没能改变本质——“桌游助手”。而在此之前的1975年实际上已经开始了可更换卡带家用机的研究,其中虽然没有取得成功但是小有名气的一个就是通用器械“General Instrument”发行的PC-50X,最开始针对的是欧洲、北美和澳大利亚市场。

看第二张图里的外盒的大彩虹,是不是想到了什么?液,我也是,咱么一起说,一、二、三————Sinclair ZX Spectrum!

(什么,你说LJN?no, no, no, not that thing...LJN是小彩虹=v=)

这个主机比较特殊,我说过第一世代全是Pong clone,你买到的所有家用机都只能玩Pong和一些衍生类型的游戏,但是本质是不变的,换汤不换药。而PC-50X是换药没换汤,为什么这么说呢?因为...它玩的还是Pong和衍生类型的游戏......that sucks.

Basketball,液,我叫它“街头篮球”,是不是很像?(才怪)很明显这是Pong clone,然而这次我们有了篮筐,是创新吧?(才怪)

Gridball,总觉得在哪儿见过,好像是一个德国还是法国的Pong clone主机有这个,这个难度还是蛮大的。

Hockey,I'm pretty sure that Atari 2600上的一个Pong sport卡带有这个,所以如果你买不到PC-50X的话,弄个Atari 2600加个便宜的Pong sport就ok了。

Soccer,好吧,这个就比较常见了,但是可以理解,毕竟没能摆脱Pong的阴影...

Squash,就连那个只有两个游戏的德国Pong clone主机上都有这个!sucks...

Tennis,让我们回到原点,这就是个加强版的Pong!唯一不同的就是,这次你可以前后移动了= =

实际上还有很多不同的,我们继续。

Destroyer,这是个双人游戏,有点像Atari 2600上的Combat,就是互射得分而已。

Sea Battle,很明显是Destroyer的单人模式,但是...为神马海是黄色的?a sea full of shxt?wow, that'd cool, it's diarrheal sea!23333333

Night Sea,这...有神马区别么?仅仅是把屎黄色变成了橙色罢了...嘛,实际上这个只是难度加强了一丢丢而已,一丢丢。

Motocross,上下换道,翻越障碍,得分。仅此而已。

Stunt Cycle,额...不想上蹿下跳,想绅士一些?好吧...

Space,又是Combat clone?alright...

还有几个有一点特别的,但是基本上都差不多。你猜一共有几种卡带?8个,对,就8个,两只手就能数过来...为啥都差不多呢?因为虽然卡带换了,但是大部分芯片组没有换。技术上来说,就是不同的芯片组对应不同的数据处理模式,而芯片组没有换就意味着模式没换。相比后来的主机卡带换的是rom,这个则是处理芯片,你懂的。

PC-50X的2号和5号卡带。

其他数据:

分辨率:208x108

色彩帧:4色(so low...)

声音处理:主机内部beeper(大部分1980s以前的主机都是)

周边产物:5针光线枪

外部电源:9V 200mA 直流电,或6个1.5V UM2号电池。(直流电,这就意味着你需要变电装置)

出厂价:99美元(WOW)

最后一个关键点,知道为何这个东西最开始存在于欧洲么?因为万恶的Atari没有把他们的2600引进到欧洲,直到20世纪80年代早期,还是Pong console统治欧洲,可怜的欧洲人...

凡是有名的主机都有clone,这个也不例外(虽然这个没什么名气),据我所知的就有大约20种了,也不算少...其余的图片感兴趣的各位可以去必应或谷歌自行搜索。

To be continued......

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猫丸团子 发表于 2015-10-15 20:22

哦哦哦!Thanks! I don't like long game either. What kind of game do you play recently?

yeah like you said, but it's kinda tough of the Game Gear version, I could only beat the first five levels then... but, the hardest puzzle game should be, Zintrick on Neo Geo CD, I tried 5 times yesterday, but I still could only beat the first two stages! even using S/L doesn't help much...

I was stucked here...

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猫丸团子 发表于 2015-10-15 20:22

哦哦哦!Thanks! I don't like long game either. What kind of game do you play recently?

I'm playing Neo Geo CD games recently, most of them are SHMUP.

and I'm digging into puzzle games, puyo puyo series on Mega Drive and Sega Mark III.

then I'm checking Famicom Disk System, so there are some Famicom-style games waiting for me too.

you could check this, https://www.gn00.com/t-615219-1-1.html

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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-10-13 22:46

yeah, but only ever played the series on GB, SNES and NES. the first to the sixth definitely, and I ...

哦哦哦!Thanks! I don't like long game either. What kind of game do you play recently?

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猫丸团子 发表于 2015-10-13 22:39

大大玩过最终幻想系列么?我这里有一个小问题:http://www.zhihu.com/question/36300895 ...

yeah, but only ever played the series on GB, SNES and NES. the first to the sixth definitely, and I dunno the other series at all. I heard of the seventh and played it a little on my PS1 several years ago, but I gave up, you know I don't like long-play games since I was over 15 years old, so that's it. and I'm sure it's on FF7, so try to find an OST rip.

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大大玩过最终幻想系列么
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大大玩过最终幻想系列么?我这里有一个小问题:http://www.zhihu.com/question/36300895

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牧羊骚年 发表于 2015-10-13 16:58

She is rare.

Playing games is like burning money.

it's not-so-rare level, but just painful...though CDs are average, but Neo Geo AES cartriages are way too dear...

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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-10-13 16:54

but actually, this is even more expensive than a XBOX One plus a PSV now on eBay lol.

mmm, well, fr ...

She is rare.

Playing games is like burning money.

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本帖最后由 ararat-tempest 于 2015-10-8 20:11 编辑

straightly push that post to here.

you could check https://www.gn00.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=613859&page=2&extra=#pid27660291

did you see my profile head "flyer", yeah, it's shit pickle, originally created by James Rolfe who's a mini film director over the decades but he's famous for being a Youtuber as The Angry Video Game Nerd. yeah, that AVGN show I used to talk a lot, and even people who know nothing about retrogaming or even video games or EVEN GAMES enjoy it. that's one of the main reason why I started to work something for emulators in showing the love for retrogaming in about 2008 or earlier. and the series James and Mike Mondays is about random games they play every monday with guests sometimes, that's fun too, cuz you could check some rare things that you've never tried before. then Ryan, their network engineer is a retrogamer too, often talks about old and new games with Mike, then another talking show is here too. James also makes videos about board games with Mike and Bootsy, who's famous for beating hard games, too. so here's Board James. and don't forget their random LIVESTREAM, subscribe it now!!! everyone should check his works with Mike Matei and his friends (in the livestream shows, even Mike's girlfriend appears sometimes!). and I'm sure I could love him and his friends 4EVER.

https://www.youtube.com/user/JamesNintendoNerd

check their channel and you can't miss it!!!

the next guy is Patrick Contri who's famous as Pat the NES Punk. there's not only one show in their channel about his reviews with funny elements and story series, but other things he talks about retrogaming, such as Flea Market Madnesswhich is a series about he and his friend Frank went to local flea market to hunt for some game cartridges and discs, CDs, figurines and so on. and you could see the gaps between the old and the young cuz Frank is an old man who doesn't care about video games lol. they often give you suggestions about making a bargain, getting a good deal and even how to judge the reseller! that's very very way too useful for retro gamers. and another series is Completely Unnecessary Podcast, which is about talking about nearly everything on entertainment nearly EVERYDAY casually with his partner Ian Ferguson, another good game reviewer ever. and I have to say CUPodcast helps me improve my English skills, if you don't believe it, just take a look. and Pat and Ian are also good friends of James and Mike.

https://www.youtube.com/user/PatTheNESpunk

remember, NEARLY EVERY DAY THERE'S CUPODCAST SHOW!

well, next one is called Game Sack. the two guys in the channel are Joe Redifer, who loves Sega, Bandai and other underrated or rare systems like me, and Dave White, who's a nintendo fan. I'm pretty sure they know LOTS OF THINGS ON RARE CONSOLES like me, and Joe often shares the same viewpoint with me. and they know more than my knowledge, so I gain much satisfactions. there are too many topics in the channel, so if you're already know many things about retrogaming, you must check this to increase the amout of your knowledge of games and consoles. I'm definitely sure you'll enjoy it.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MrGameSack

be sure you're not an OUTSIDER!

Cygnus Destroyer! yep, whose name's Matt Ezero, is a big fan of AVGN series too. (he has a big flyer of AVGN promotion with James's sign, and a signed Rambo NES cartridge, awwwwwe, I'm jealous OoO) He's the spokesperson of LJN, which is the game company release shitty games that critical reviews shows a lot of times and it appeared in AVGN episodes many many times that James showed his hatedness. Matt started the channed as a reviewer of games that seldom people talking about, and he wanna do something to show the love to AVGN, so here came The LJN Defender, means to give fair reviews of LJN games, (with LJN's little rainbow painted on his baby blue T-shirt lmfao) which I think is very unique and innovative. also, he makes tons of videos like this to those controversial games in the history. if you're a fan of AVGN like me, try this guy right now!

https://www.youtube.com/user/CygnusDestroyer20XX

you'll feel impressive about his words and views!

I've already mentioned I like searching infos on gaming history, so there's another must-check, the Gaming Historian. like the channel shows, Norman Caruso talks about everything about gaming history, the consoles, the games, bit wars, video game crash, and some books about this theme. it's enjoyable and make me wanna buy some books too. (I don't like reading books then, but...well, you'll know why if you check it.) I never get bored on his channel. and he's the ONLY POLITE GENTLEMAN among these reviewers, why? cuz he NEVER said "shxt", "fxxk", "axxhole", things like this, on the contrary, AVGN, well......

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL397C52406E483BAB

if you don't wanna be angry and laugh a lot, just learn some knowledge instead of reading tedious wikipedia, try this for sure!!!

maybe some of you (or just me) know this guy, Joey Desana, a crazy lover of sixteen bit RPG games. he's famous for starting the series 16-Bit Gems. he's a funny guy too, and sometimes mentioned other youtubers I've shown you above. he has very good reputations about reviewing 16-bit games and crossovered with fun elements. he did give me the motivation playing SNES, cuz ya all know, I don't really like nintendo consoles.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL05A51C154B1BBD00

mmm, and he's a good friend of nearly every famous retrogaming youtubers I supposed. (especially Norman)

retro video games are not only for the male. Alli Flanagan is the only female retro game reviewer I used to love. she's a pretty, blonde and cute girl who used to give out some bad jokes. mmm, alright. and she speaks in British English, that's infrequent. though she only started to make videos two years ago, so fresh. if you're curious, check the "California Games" episode.

https://www.youtube.com/user/8bitAlli

she ever showed a segment of Joey and Norman, maybe she's a friend of them too.

yep, all of them except AVGN's Cinemassacre groups and Cygnus Destroyer (which was in ScrewAttack) are in this big community, Retroware. the director and "CEO" of this community, John, and his Patrick Contri, decided to start a series,Video Game Years History. it's like an all-star show with many familiar people, and many non-Retroware members joined them too. it's different from Norman's, and it's more casual like things in CUPodcast.

https://www.youtube.com/user/RetrowareTV

check it, believe me, it's very exciting watching this!!!!!

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每个链接都点进去,感觉像是在拆礼物啊,等待惊喜,一波一波的,好想埋胸啊

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我会说我今天又搞了一个频道的所有视频么
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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-11-13 14:06

我会说我今天又搞了一个频道的所有视频么...

是这个网站的

https://www.youtube.com/user/STGWeekly

吾打开的提示是【网页走丢了。【【【【【【走丢了!!!

╮(╯▽╰)╭哎

话说吾就算是解密类的游戏也要看提示啊,用键盘操作的就直接狗带了。。。

@@6!!没天赋还真不行

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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-11-11 10:18

@Milesama @不安心的安心 @懒壹壹 @渺茫 @Sphinx0319 @Amily阿寻 @ ̄へ ̄ @半世琉璃 @pinkylam @aioria @帝 ...

@@15!! 上班忙,抽空回来看看,你真的好活跃呀~

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Elizabeth♐ 发表于 2015-11-12 19:53

是汝家的盘特大还是吾家的太小,竟然有931G(๑Ő௰Ő๑)

but this is the biggest one. another one is 500G, the smallest one is only 64G.

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是汝家的盘特大还是吾家的太小
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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-11-12 19:49

but I did some cleaning today, result is good.

是汝家的盘特大还是吾家的太小,竟然有931G(๑Ő௰Ő๑)

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Elizabeth♐ 发表于 2015-11-12 19:24

然后汝的盘又满惹,233

考试结果还不错~( ̄▽ ̄~)~

but I did some cleaning today, result is good.

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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-11-11 21:15

我基本都是把链接不厌其烦的复制粘贴到记事本里,然后下载下来看。

液,祝你考全校第一 ...

然后汝的盘又满惹,233

考试结果还不错~( ̄▽ ̄~)~

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[Retro-A's Top Secret Area] SP00, 之前各种主机方面问题的Q&A

本帖最后由 ararat-tempest 于 2015-10-29 20:39 编辑

整合一下以往和近期别人向我提问的各方面主机问题,我当时都留有备份了,一般都是我的个人看法,仅供参考。

我发此贴的理由在于发表下这方面的看法,也是给那些想买主机的retro党一些建议,再就是唤起乃们复古的心23333

因为全是欧美人问,所以都是英语的,这里我全翻译成汉语了,除了主机名和一些翻译成汉语之后无比蛋疼的术语。本贴不禁水,吐槽请随意。

目录:

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Q1.老话常谈,你最喜欢的主机?

Q2.能给些理由为何喜欢她们么?

Q3.你认为一个好主机需要什么?

Q4:你见过的最稀有的主机?不一定是实体见过,就你所了解的即可。

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Q5.你用着最舒服的控制器?

Q6.你个人觉得最差的主机?

Q7.对于主机你最不能容忍的是什么?

Q8.你为何要当一名retrogamer?(复古游戏党)

Q9.你觉得哪个主机才是整个电子游戏界最至观重要的?

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Q10.如果你想自主研发或者改进模拟器,你想开发那个平台的什么?

Q11.你所见过的最古怪的家用机?

Q12.对于各种媒体载体能做点评论么?

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Q13.你觉得发行时间最不符合时宜的主机是?

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Q14.能说一下Sega 32X的优缺点么?

Q15.前一阵eBay上浮出了很多Pong console,你认为如果不是收藏党单纯是为了实用的话,哪些更值得买?

Q16.你觉得在8位旧式电脑上开发游戏最关键的是什么?

Q17.玩卷轴类游戏你最讨厌什么?

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Q18.你认为什么平台上的游戏需要重制?

Q19.你会为哪个掌机鸣不平?

Q20.最近三个世代以内的家用机中你觉得哪个最没有价值?

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Q21.你认为在哪个8位以上64位以下的掌机平台开发PD游戏既方便又能提高游戏性?

Q22.能推荐一个老的教育游戏主机么?推荐给邻居家的孩子用。

Q23.除了任、索和微三国争霸,近10年内在其周边爆发了一场microconsole(微型主机)和plug-n-play(即插即玩主机)主机的大战,你更偏好哪个?

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Q24.我想做个节奏类游戏,你能推荐个8位或以下主机的平台么?

Q25.你认为那些21世纪初的多功能家用机失败的原因是?

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牧羊骚年 发表于 2015-10-13 17:00

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Time to offline.

yeah, it is this one. I'm also testing many roms and try to find out whether they work fine.

waiting for my post of rom-collecting compilation~ (there are over 10000 roms and 1200+ games, it's an odyssey......)

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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-10-13 16:58

but through my lots of testing works, only Ataroid is stable for use without any errors. now I'm w ...

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牧羊骚年 发表于 2015-10-13 16:56

These days my phone is useless,so I tried the Android emulator, interesting.

but through my lots of testing works, only Ataroid is stable for use without any errors. now I'm working on ZX Spectrum emulator called "Xpectroid".

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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-10-13 16:52

so you can't let emulators on android or iOs go.

These days my phone is useless,so I tried the Android emulator, interesting.

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牧羊骚年 发表于 2015-10-13 16:51

Cell phone.

I am on the way of finding interesting phone games.

so you can't let emulators on android or iOs go.

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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-10-13 16:46

yep, try them out if you wanna play them simply on your computers and smart phones~

Cell phone.

I am on the way of finding interesting phone games.

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牧羊骚年 发表于 2015-10-13 16:45

WOW

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many!!!

yep, try them out if you wanna play them simply on your computers and smart phones~

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没事儿翻箱倒柜,结果发现了我遗失15年的一个东西...

look at this,

知道这是神马么?

let me tell you, this is fxxking FAMICOM!

oh jesus, 我在有生之年竟然能找回它...然而这只是我当年的一个收藏之一,我多么希望我找到的是我的PCE或者MD(这个扯淡,我亲手卖的= =)

is it cool?虽然不是正版老任出品,然而他是个日本公司LT的clone model不是神马fxxking小霸王!小霸王sucks,至少对于我来说。

额,我不想挑起是非,let's see more.

他比老任原版唯一的先进之处就是,自带turbopad!

妈妈再也不用担心我玩contra把B键按坏了@@33!!

可惜P2没有麦克风,sucks!(嘛,反正我当时也不玩legend of zelda,无所谓)

四根线,跟正版Famicom一样,一个AC,一个音频,一个视频,还有RF Switch用来插天线的。天线什么鬼?可以坐的离电视远些咯,反正我觉得没啥大用,线足够长,believe me。

然后看看我有些啥pirate cartridge。@@27!!

64 in 1,sucks但是有很多我小时候经常玩的,还有北美稀有的黑盒游戏!

let's check this shxt out!

1.adventure island,hudson有名的东西。2.salamander I个毛线啊,实际上是konami神作——gradius,我9岁经常三命通关= =

3.star soldier,这是让我成为hudson的shmup类游戏脑残粉的原因之一,12岁以前最喜欢的没有之一。

4.the goonies,许多人说二代是神作,然而我觉得二代让我晕头转向,地图过大(路痴晚期)

5.legend of kage,然而我对platform类不太感冒,这个卷轴速度也很快,容易挂。

6.tetris II,经常跟老妈比赛233,也是醉了= = 7.super mario bro. II,神作不解释,然而我并不知道最后一关怎么搞= =

8.twinbee,另一个喜欢的shmup类,konami神作之二,并不喜欢射即所得的系统= =

9.ninja II,well, 对这个并不了解很多。 10.碰碰车什么鬼,嘛,实际上是rad racer。已醉。

11.B-wing,非常出色的shmup,只是关卡设计有点单调,然而武器系统却十分出色。如果gradius+B-wing,then......my mind blew up...

12.1942,然而我喜欢1943不解释。 13.Kung Fu,here comes the 黑盒游戏,太难了,根本没到过第三关= =我是platform渣

14.bomberman,第一关都过不去,believe me。 15.front line,非常cute的竖版run'n'gun类。

16.billiard,然而我却忘了真名叫啥= =! 17.golf,另一个黑盒游戏。跟马里奥大叔一起玩高尔夫,you're worth it.

18.baseball,还是黑盒游戏。不知道为啥我小时候经常能搞出全垒打也是醉了(装B模式on)

19.pinball,还是黑盒,这个卡带想统治FC的1985年么?! 20.国产游戏,如题,并不感冒。

21.lode runner,yeah,I'm lovin' it!最后一关也并没有想象的那么难,怎么到达最后一关?按select你就知道答案了。

22.lode runner II,取消了地图绘制模式,shxt! 23和24记不清应该叫啥名了...总之都是台湾麻将并不是日麻。

25.nuts & milk,像黑盒游戏其实不是,早期的复古风。 26.choujikuu yousai macross,shmup类然而并不那么好玩,唯一酷的地方就是可以变形。

27.雷鸟号什么鬼!然而是star force,早期SG-1000上的神作,nes和FC版的有所不同,我这个上面的是FC版的,nes版音乐和音效比FC版白痴。

28.yie-ar kung fu,konami经典之一,然而我并不买账。 29.ninja I,是ninja II的prequel(废话)。

30.mario bro.,黑盒游戏,管道工马里奥23333 31-33,donkey kong,donkey kong jr.和donkey kong 3。一是马里奥救女友,donkey是坏蛋。二是donkey kong jr救老爸,马里奥是坏蛋。三完全就跟马里奥没关系了,你是stanley,防止大猩猩从动物园跑出来233333333

34.mappy, yeah, I'm so happy, motherfxxker,所以motherfxxker+happy=mappy(抽风模式on)

35.excitebike,我好兴奋啊啊啊啊啊...... 36.F1 racer,黑盒游戏,开你的方程式赛车去吧。

37.road fighter,是够火箭的= = 38.popeye,黑盒游戏,然而小时候我通全关无数次了。

39.galaga,嗯...我觉得ZX spectrum和PCE版的更好。(学究模式on) 40.pac-man,乃们敢不敢把这个神作叫的更普通一点,oh shxt,they call pac-man "little elf", jesus fxxkin' christ......@@18!!

41.galaxian,我十分想不明白为何这个和galaga能跟蜜蜂扯上关系,汉化游戏名的人是白痴么?这也是我拒绝神马汉化的原因之一。

42.snow bros,小学一二年级的时候,无数次在楼下的菜市场看见有俩孩子或者孩子和他爸玩这个......

43.phoenix,另一个伪3D shmup,没啥说的,只能让我想起Atari 2600上的那个。

44.M.U.S.C.L.E,并不是摔角好么= = 45.battle city,貌似大陆人都很爱玩这个,尤其80后。

46.carrier aces,日版only的另一个伪3D shmup。容易头晕。 47.balloon fight,我和Pat都爱玩这个!液~~~(脑残模式on,另外,Pat是AVGN的好基友)

48.formation Z,又是一个汉化组白痴化起名的作品,叫机器人一点都不酷好吗!?

49.pooyan,这个译名我真心无语,我需要静一静...... 50.circus charlie,好吧,只是跳跳跳跳跳......

51.karateka,这游戏即使我用模拟器S/L也不能(同时没有耐性)通关,谁能告诉我结局是啥?

52.sinbad,这卡带上第二个unl游戏,很酷的platform类,然而我只能到第二关。

53.antarctic adventure,Konami撬开FC/NES世界大门的钥匙,神作不解释。

54-64只是前面游戏的加强hack,没劲。作弊谁还玩了。

楼下继续。

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据经销商Play-Asia透露,PSV《太鼓达人V》繁体中文版将会在8月6日至9月2日期间提供免费DLC曲目:《小苹果》。

而此前根据台湾巴哈姆特论坛透露的信息,【初回特典】里还随机赠送 中文歌曲:罗志祥的《精武门》、伍佰的《你是我的花朵》、A-Lin&小宇的《920》,以上均为繁体中文版限定曲目。

PS:我选择死亡……突然感觉我在日服真是太好了……

日服此时也公开了,7月和8月的配信曲目:

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My name's retro-A, and I do the retro reviews~!

之前不久我和几个old computers的论坛成员讨论了下Coleco Chameleon,如果你听说过Coleco,你知道他们是康涅狄格皮革公司(Connecticut Leather Company),后来在1980年左右强势杀入家用机和家用电脑市场(ColecoVision和Adam Computer)成为80年代三剑客(另外两个是Atari的Atari 2600和Mattel的Intellivision,这些都是4位家用机),而硬件性能上来说,Colevo占据绝对优势而且ColecoVision已经接近8位主机,它的性能甚至可以和同时期日本8位家用电脑MSX和世嘉历史上第一台4位(或者说是伪8位)家用机SG-1000相媲美,2009年左右有程序猿甚至把SG-1000上的Star Force和Gulkave移植到了ColecoVision上,我亲自测试了rom,完全感觉不到他是一台4位主机,所以很多人把他看作6位家用机。1983年第二次电玩市场大萧条后就销声匿迹了,直到2015年,他们重出江湖宣布一款multi-bit综合型家用机(通吃8位、16位和32位)叫Coleco Chameleon,以前也有网上新闻提到过,

(这文章的小编真是感人,卡带就卖情怀了?那磁带卖啥?【我是指80年代家用电脑的应用载体,Sinclair ZX Spectrum、Commodore 64、Amstrad CPC、TRS-80等等】还有,有些plug 'n' play可不是靠模拟器的,是modified原版硬件植入型的,真是对某些大陆的小编单凭想象的感动无语了,这图大家就看个热闹千万别把里面的评论性文字当真...)

主机如图

时间回转至2016年1月...

我:这东西不就是Atari Jaguar么,难道Coleco和Atari inc.有什么勾当???(或者翻译成py交易2333@@20!!

A:有可能,虽然他们那时候是死对头。

B:我之前也说过,好比现在索尼给微软开发游戏是不现实的。

我:你们觉得Coleco的Kickstater(nc粉们筹款用的,是Chameleon成为现实的主要来源)能成功么?

B:难说,至少4位主机我还是喜欢Atari 2600,毕竟大家一提到Atari就知道说的是2600。

C:我喜欢7800,说实话。

我:我给Intellivision点赞,虽然控制器闹心。

A:我也是...话说回来,我看网上给E3展位拍的图里是个16位的游戏诶。

注:图中的Sydney Hunter系列是CollectorVision的homebrew系列,已经登录了PC、MSX、SNES、XBOX360等新老家用机,我很久以前推荐的youtuber里的John Lester【Gamester81】是其中开发组成员之一,而且他最喜欢的主机就是ColecoVision。

我:那个传说中要登录XBOX360的16位platformer?

B:对,我在youtube上看过相关介绍,看起来不错,屏幕切换时有NES上的Zelda的感觉。

C:既然说是像Atari Jaguar,那这东西也是64位的么?Do the math,哈哈哈

我:最好是,或者能玩N64游戏就爽了。

A:我查了一下,竟然连原型都流出了,我有种不祥的预感......

我:越来越像Jaguar了,能不能把Jaguar CD加上去xD

C:加上去的话就炸了lmfao

我:Indiegogo的筹款怎么停了呢?

A:不知道,弄不下去了所以改换在Kickstarter了呗。

B:你们觉得控制器如何,我只看外形也很喜欢的呢,玩模拟器的话也应该很好。

我:我觉得analog stick位置有点高,手小的不太方便,尤其玩FPS的时候会手忙脚乱的啊。

B:但是玩SNES应该没问题,我还真没用analog stick玩过SNES呢,挺创新。

C:适合玩SHMUP。

我:我给个分吧,第一印象8/10。

C:分不低啊,你给分很松么?

我:还可以吧,我很喜欢外形,扣的分都是因为那两个蘑菇位置高。

B:NG:DEV Team已经宣布要有作品移植到这里了的说,Dreamcast和Neo Geo饭们燥起来!

我:OMG...最好有Last Hope,还是Pink Bullet版的。Fast Striker也行,这个名声太大了。

A:我倒希望是Gunlord,欧洲人都喜欢Amiga你们知道。

我:听说过这个,既然你提到Amiga了,难不成这个run'n'gun也用上键作为跳跃?

C:哈哈哈哈哈哈

我:这就很尴尬了lol

A:......我只是说Gunlord一下让我想起当年Amiga上的各种platformer了

我:说实话我更喜欢Amiga CD,虽然大部分platformer依旧控制感人。

C:不管怎么说Chameleon其他方面貌似也不错。

(注:图中为Chameleon主机后侧,有传统的红黄白VGA借口,S-Video还有HDMI,甚至入网接口)

............

这一切似乎都是进展的如此顺利,结果却在2016年3月,Kickstarter暂停筹款,网站终止运营,原版宣布要在Chameleon上发布的游戏开发商也取消一切宣言,一切似乎都像没发生过,差点掀起一场retrogame巨浪的Coleco就这么草草收场了,简直对不起我们这些“情怀@@16!!

......

得,情怀狗们还是接着坐等新的Atari Flashback吧,哦对,今年也有个盼头,老任也要搞Atari和Sega的那套plug 'n' play的把戏了,搞了个NES Classic Edition,长得像小版的NES model 1,内置30款经典游戏,有了模拟器的我们买这个也就收藏了,60刀真心不...啊便宜,反正我是不买,嗯,我得攒钱捐肾买X68000呢@@18!!

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[Retro-A's Top Secret Area] SP10, gameplays and youtubers' replies 中文版pt.1

本帖最后由 ararat-tempest 于 2016-8-26 19:51 编辑

Hello there, really a long time didn't update this~

你们以为我有了cp就现充去了吧,咔咔咔,那只是一部分@jgzhx#(虐狗才是重点

咳咳...额,总之我决定发一次中文版的...

这次先来看我订阅的那些youtuber给我的回复...

ReplayRetro的Matthew的回复,我问了他关于Nuon的问题。最近我在youtube上问了很多人关于Nuon的问题,可是知道的人真是不太多;Nuon实际上算是第一个混淆了DVD播放器和家用机界限的电子产品,我对它非常感兴趣,但是资料很少,明显欧洲玩家也不太清楚...我还问了他关于FM-Towns Marty的问题,如回答所说,那东西就是个怪物,非常非常贵,可能快要和外星人的steam machine一个价了。最后的回答是我向他要推荐几个Amstrad GX-4000的游戏,呵呵(我故意的)看过他节目的人都知道他对这个家用机早就失去耐性了...

圣诞节那天发的,然而过了两周才收到回复...Michael就是那个家里养了四五只喵三四只汪,疯狂收藏NES卡带的哥们,他虽然技术渣了点倒也不至于手癌的程度...我在他回忆SNES那期发的,提到了Donkey Kong Country...不知道这游戏的赶快去撸@7#

RetroCore是我最近才订阅的频道,是一个在日本的米国妹纸(还是在米国的日本妹纸来着...)的怀旧情怀=_=显然她的优势就是知道很多日本的机器,这样我们就有共同语言了@1#这是我们讨论X68K的一段。她也说:“X68K出家用机版是不现实的”,事实如此,难以反驳...当时的技术也达不到这个程度,第一个做到的就是SNK。

又见Matt~10个guilty pleasure,我的第一名就是NES上的Back To The Future,毋庸置疑,电影不错,游戏一般倒是不至于渣,我和他观点一致。

Austin最近又耍了不少好东西,其中就有Journey To Silius,他技术非常好,这游戏也是熟能生巧。我给他推荐了不少Natsume出品的。

当然少不了Shatterhand和Shadow Of The Ninja~他说要在线直播呢,nicccccccccce!

然而他没玩过Dragon Fighter,Cocoron他根本没听说过,正常,毕竟欧美那边玩过Famicom的人不多。

最新一期的IUPG上我向Matt推荐了好素材,Game.com上的Sonic Jam,但是...拍摄黑白掌机确实是个问题。

然后是我最近一个月耍的。

玩了不少GB...先是GBC上的欧版Konami Collection。

Nemesis,1周目误伤,难度普通。其实没有NES上的简单,NES版的Gradius一周目可以轻松无伤。

Probotector,其实就是Contra,一周目无伤,武器和NES版的不一样了,多了跟踪炮,散弹枪和火焰枪(Super C版)保留了。很有挑战性,个人觉得比Super C难但是比原版Contra简单。

Parodius,一周目无伤。版面短流程长,没有NES版难。Vic Viper被削弱了所以我没用她。

TwinBee II,一周目无伤。对这版的TwinBee我大力赞扬,因为吃了糖果以后可以保持幻影,可以保持火力输出。

Nemesis II,一周目无伤。当年最喜欢的GB游戏之一,彩色版真棒。只有两个boss比较有挑战性,其他的都菜(包括最终boss)。

Castlevania Belmont's Revenge,无伤通。真是累死了,这游戏不练习几次背个板无伤简直不可能。

Megaman GB,只损了1个人。看了Mike Matei的在线直播,我也尝试了一下,之前只玩过一次,这是第二次就只损1个人就通了,真是要感谢Mike。

然后是几个TurboGrafx游戏。

Legendary Axe,损3命通...分数没到一百万...哎...我是拼了,第一次耍能损三命我值了。

Gradius,一周目一命通。我觉得难度和NES版的一样,虽然多了一关。

Ninja Spirit,损4命通,基本前面都是一命通,最后那段从上面落下来死了四次...就算背板也一定会损个一两人。

最后是两个Fairchild Channel F的。

Shooting Gallery,2分钟模式,172发命中78次...太差了...不过我第一次玩有情可原,全是timing问题。

Dodge 'em,无尽模式,1061分,坚持了将近5分钟左右,千万别用手柄的D-pad玩,能把手磨出泡=_=最好用摇杆,实在不行用键盘。

还有剩下的一些明天更新。

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本帖最后由 ararat-tempest 于 2015-12-16 20:22 编辑

My name's retro-A, and I do the retro reviews~!it's really a long time that I didn't update the main part of my board, so it's just another time a rare system surfaced.

液,他的名字叫Koei Pasogo (光栄パソ碁)。

提到Koei,你会想到Tecmo,当然,是现在的玩家来说,但是对于90‘s和00's过来人来说,提到Koei你会想到三国志,信长之野望,无双系列,等等和历史挂钩的策略和RPG、动作游戏。可是,80’s和90's对于主机业来说是个混乱的年代,任何一个开发游戏和硬件,甚至玩具和其他电子行业,甚至和这些毫无任何关联的公司都会来分一杯羹,不管你老任还是世嘉、NEC发行了神马nb玩意儿,只要能赚钱就行。Koei于是乎也在1992年前后开始着手开发掌机,结果可想而知...在掌机圈——这个“披萨”,基本被GameBoy一个人独享十六分之十五,其他的除了Game Gear能分到一小块以外,别的掌机顶多只能分到半块香肠而已= =

你可能会问:Koei不会这么傻的吧,对头,他们不傻,帮助别人就是帮助自己了,他们想当“雷锋”。(我凌乱了)

看这个掌机的日文名里有个“碁”字,某些稀有机控可能就会想到些什么了,嗯,和三四年前死的很惨的某个为桥牌设计专用家用机一样,pasogo同样是个专用掌机,围棋专用。

我看到他的第一印象就是,屏幕真大啊...那是GBA刚刚要发行的一年,Koei此时出来秀技术真的好么...不过老任说:哼,放过你一马(it's a joke~)。

d-pad看起来很舒服,8方向貌似,但是对于围棋来说真的有必要8方向么= =右侧两个AB键,两侧边缘很光滑,磨砂外壳更增色不少,明显手感超好。

遗憾的是,这不是一个彩色系统,但是锐度很高,画面水平应该和Wonderswan相当甚至有可能比那个要高;上侧卡带槽很细,卡带的rom容量可能不是很大。

一共就这三个软件发行,两个教程,一个实践...外包装很普通,卡带果然不是很厚,上方有把手让我想起了Atari Jaguar的卡带设计。

主机内部着实让我吓了一跳,竟然这么空荡...我只看到了一个处理器和一些ram芯片组,所以硬件不是很过硬,但是足以支持那三个软件。如果再加一个处理器,扩展下rom容量,哪怕他不是彩色的,技术上也足矣超过GameBoy了我敢肯定。

卡带内部构造,单芯片构造实在是...但是却给ram留了很多空间,储存是没问题了。

以上大部分都是我根据图片推测出来的内容,网上基本连图片都没有几个,而且四年前竟然eBay上有卖的,卖到了上千美元也是够可以了...

找到了一个以前卖pasogo的一个网店,乐天竟然还卖过其专用ac adapter!

所以可见此掌机的稀有度,可谓是稀有中的稀有,销量数据也无处可找。如果你认识90年代在Koei干过的人才有可能听说过这个“圣杯”。lol

个人评分:

外观:8/10,大屏更清晰,液~

耐用度:4/10,超级不禁用,真的,连ac adapter都是专用的你能期待什么呢。

硬件:3/10,提升空间很大而已。

画面:6/10,黑白掌机中比较好的,锐度提升加分不少。

声音:5/10,这三个软件我在youtube上曾经看过gameplay demo,声音不是很好,但是也强过GameBoy了。

稀有度:10/10,I have no response...

总分:6/10

入手建议:如果不是收集狂人千万别入手...

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这音乐好熟悉啊
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一库!!这音乐好熟悉啊

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caesarxiu 发表于 2015-12-20 10:26

Oh right!I had forgotten to say that I am a huge fan of Koei‘s games.I have played the “San Guo Z ...

gamers in mainland always recommend me games about Chinese history, but may I say "I'm not interested in those things"? lol. anyway, thanks for recommendation.

I was a huge fan of musou series including Shin Sangokumusou, Sengoku Musou and Musou Orochi, I played all the series and titles, even on PSV and 3DS I ever tested back in the days. But I don't have time to play those long-time-costing games, I gave up unfortunately. But I did beat all the titles except the Shin Sangokumusou on PSV and Sengoku Musou Chronicle on 3DS. (I don't have a chance to play the new titles on PS4 or XBOXone...) and I don't really like strategy games except RTS.

Still remember the days I spent trying to beat Musou Orochi X and its sequel...

You have to use proxy to open my links because of GFW you know, try to download freegate or vpn.

About books, I only love to read video game history and extreme music history, and I prefer ebook, don't really mind physical copy. Now I'm a real rom predator. I'm not rich so I'm not going to be the collector of physical copies.

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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-12-20 08:04

that's ok dude, just reply me when u r free.

in fact, I just wanna show the "rare knowledge" to pe ...

Oh right!I had forgotten to say that I am a huge fan of Koei‘s games.I have played the “San Guo Zhi” series from Ⅵ to Ⅻ,and I also have played the “Zhen San Guo Wu Shuang Ⅴ”.I like Koei’s games very much.There‘s a link of a post about the game,“The Romance of Three Kingdoms”.

You will like to read it.

Url:http://game.ali213.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1063340#425351-tsina-1-62841-42296052fac87cc4534a18dacf27d067

I don't kown why I was unable to open the link you provided for me,even I can't open the Websites of Twitter and YouTube,the Chrome always replys “Out of Time”.I don't against Retro,even I like it from games to books.I think the old games and old books are the classics and more useful than the new,especially the books,The old books issued in the last century are consise and clear not like most of the newly issuing so messy。

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caesarxiu 发表于 2015-12-19 22:25

I‘m sorry to reply you。But I really don't have too much time to play the computer.For this,I apolo ...

that's ok dude, just reply me when u r free.

in fact, I just wanna show the "rare knowledge" to people who love gaming consoles and retro games, it's encyclopediac. I never use search engines left in China cuz I never found the things I wanted, they're super lame and useless.

thanks for supporting, the famiclone's socket of ac adapter is the same size of the 80's tape recorder, u can still use those.

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I‘m sorry to reply you。But I really don't have too much time to play the computer.For this,I apologize to you.

emmm,I like the background music except the third one.Form the bottom of my heart,I have trouble to read your

post,cuz most of the things you said is out of my knowledge,I often have to use the Baidu。In spite of this,I still adore

you.Believe it or not,I have a ac adapter for the famiclone before,but I used it to do physics experiments.

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非陌痕 发表于 2015-12-17 15:43

冬眠也是大自然的规律。

我是春眠@@15!!

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@ou#冬眠也是大自然的规律。

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ararat-tempest 发表于 2015-12-17 09:59

yeah, new Star Wars is on the go, everybody is excited about it, but I just don't mind. anyway, St ...

A lot of exciting films are coming in 2016.

I can't protect my wallet.

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